terview on the Woman's Hour program, to be played after I left London. Much of the interview was on drugs but there is a good possibility that the broadcast will include mention of the Beloved as the Avatar of the Age. (It is a bit of a miracle that the radio programs didn't get more sensitive to over-exposure. Only one station canceled an interview because it had been on the same day as another. Many of the shows are quite competitive, especially over a short run — but the Beloved smoothed ruffled feathers when necessary.) That evening brought "Journey to the East," another lecture at the Arts Lab attended by 40 or so.
On the 20th, I lunched with Jay Landesman, an American correspondent and key social entertainer, who seemed attracted to Baba; among the others at lunch was a Yugoslavian sex-book writer and one of the biggest illegal distributors of LSD in England — and we talked mostly about Baba. That evening back at the Arts Lab I spoke to 65 people on "Occultism and Mysticism" — interest was consistently high in the listeners for the Arts Lab discussions. Right after the talk, I and some of the London lovers went to BBC radio. While waiting for an interview on "Late-Night Extra," we went to an unoccupied studio and taped a conversation between myself and Jeremy and Susan Goodwin, extraordinary Baba-children of 10 and 8 respectively who had just learned of the Beloved but who fell deeply in love. I asked them of their experiences and feelings about Baba — the plan was to submit an edited portion of the tape to BBC-TV for possible use in their drugs and mysticism program.
It was close to midnight when I went on a "live" show that seemed to represent the last media opportunity in Britain. The program covered two of England's four stations and my interview was to last three minutes or so. The topic was supposed to be drugs, so I tried to say something definite about Baba in my response to a question I knew would be asked: "Why are you in England?" In my actual response, which was rather subtle, I expressed 100% definitely Who the Beloved is. I also tried to remember to plug the major public talk yet to come, but was so groggy that I announced the wrong date. Incredibly, a Baba-lover heard the broadcast and immediately phoned BBC which got word to the producer and myself before the interview was over. It is amazing how the Beloved uses even one's mistakes, since the new announcement for the talk was doubly emphatic. The most important thing was the tack that the interview took. Instead of ending it with his intended questions about Leary the interviewer found himself asking about Baba, and the 3 minute interview took. Instead of ending it with his intended questions about Leary, Master Gamesman!
On the 21st I was driven out to Oxford and lunched at Maud Kennedy's marvelous Baba-home and then went into town to deliver a talk on "Drugs and Higher Consciousness" to about 100 in an old English town